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Edwin

Hi, and welcome to a new, true crime podcast. I'm your host, Savannah Renee. And this is corrupt guilt. Today I have Clint Lacey, back with us here in the studio. Clint is going to give the listeners a recap on what we've gone over with the Edwin Turling...


Hi, and welcome to a new, true crime podcast. I'm your host, Savannah Renee. And this is corrupt guilt. Today I have Clint Lacey, back with us here in the studio. Clint is going to give the listeners a recap on what we've gone over with the Edwin Turlington case thus far. Clint will also continue Edwin's story and tell us more about the The Most Dangerous Man and the Rape of Delware County.  

Transcript
1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Hi, and welcome to a new, true crime podcast. 2 00:00:04,590 --> 00:00:06,150 I'm your host, Savannah Renee. 3 00:00:06,330 --> 00:00:08,200 And this is corrupt guilt. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,310 Today I have Clint Lacey, back with us here in the studio. 5 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:17,700 he is going to give you guys a recap on what we've been talking about with the Edwin Turlington case. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,000 He is also going to continue his story. 7 00:00:21,690 --> 00:00:23,260 And tell us the. 8 00:00:23,870 --> 00:00:27,700 tell us about the corruption in Delaware county, Oklahoma. 9 00:00:29,370 --> 00:00:29,790 Clint. 10 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:38,991.587301587 Are you ready? Would you go ahead and introduce yourself? Hi, I'm Clint and welcome back to Corrupt Guilt. 11 00:00:38,999.070294785 --> 00:00:57,617.448979592 My first interview with Savannah, we discussed the rape of Delaware County kind of the overall picture of what happened to Edwin Turton and what he went through and who the Delaware County Sheriff's Office was protecting, as well as a lot of the corruption that has gone on in Delaware County, Oklahoma. 12 00:00:57,621.371882086 --> 00:01:00,667.879818594 This second episode of the Rape of Delaware County. 13 00:01:01,267.879818594 --> 00:01:13,501.258503401 I thought we would go over Edwin Darlington's arrest and give a little bit of background on Edwin Toton, who he is and what his life was like before what happened. 14 00:01:15,631.258503401 --> 00:01:18,941.258503401 The following information was gleaned from a probable cause a. 15 00:01:19,861.258503401 --> 00:01:22,621.258503401 Issued in Oklahoma's 13th judicial District. 16 00:01:23,281.258503401 --> 00:01:27,121.258503401 This is the information which was used to justify the arrest of Edwin Turton. 17 00:01:27,811.258503401 --> 00:01:32,221.258503401 Quote on 14 April, 2014. 18 00:01:32,226.258503401 --> 00:01:48,481.2585034 At approximately 1947 hours, I Deputy Chris Hardison with the Delaware County Sheriff's Department was dispatched to 68,296 East three 70 County Road in Delaware County, Oklahoma, on a disturbance with shots fired. 19 00:01:50,356.2585034 --> 00:02:01,846.2585034 Before my arrival, the suspect later identified as Edwin Harding Turton date of birth, 10/10/1968, left the area westbound in a black Ford extended cab truck. 20 00:02:02,416.2585034 --> 00:02:05,746.2585034 The alleged victim later identified as Darrell Eugene Philpot. 21 00:02:06,826.2585034 --> 00:02:09,886.2585034 Date of birth 2/16/1961. 22 00:02:09,886.2585034 --> 00:02:11,267.2585034 Also left prior to my. 23 00:02:12,11.2585034 --> 00:02:15,881.2585034 And was allegedly taken to a hospital in Grove, Arkansas. 24 00:02:16,601.2585034 --> 00:02:24,971.2585034 Upon arrival at approximately 2037 hours, I met with James Steven Barrett, date of birth 11/4/1982. 25 00:02:25,691.2585034 --> 00:02:31,781.2585034 James Barrett stated he and Darrell Philpot had gone east of the residence to cut some firewood on the south side of the road. 26 00:02:32,891.2585034 --> 00:02:36,611.2585034 After cutting some wood, they decided to burn some trash they found by the Rob. 27 00:02:37,691.2585034 --> 00:02:40,451.2585034 Another neighbor, Joseph Bradley, Date of birth. 28 00:02:42,16.2585034 --> 00:02:48,36.2585034 Oh 5 12 19 80 was driving westbound past James Barrett and Darrell Fillo. 29 00:02:49,486.2585034 --> 00:02:56,506.2585034 Joseph Bradley stated he was stopped by a white male, later identified as Edwin Darlington driving a black Ford truck. 30 00:02:57,496.2585034 --> 00:03:01,156.2585034 Edwin Darlington asked if he was on his property and Joseph Bradley stated no. 31 00:03:01,966.2585034 --> 00:03:08,416.2585034 Joseph Bradley stated he observed Edwin Turton pull up next to James Barrett and Darrell Philpot on the passenger side of their truck. 32 00:03:09,316.2585034 --> 00:03:15,406.2585034 Joseph Bradley stated, 20 minutes later, James Barrett pulled in and stayed at Edward Turton had just shot Darrell fill. 33 00:03:16,581.2585034 --> 00:03:20,901.2585034 Joseph Bradley stated he gave Darrell Philpot a ride to Jack Thomas's residence. 34 00:03:21,531.2585034 --> 00:03:24,861.2585034 I asked James Barrett to come with me and show me where this all happened. 35 00:03:25,521.2585034 --> 00:03:30,811.2585034 James took me approximately a quarter mile east of 68,296. 36 00:03:31,696.2585034 --> 00:03:33,346.2585034 East County Road three 70. 37 00:03:33,916.2585034 --> 00:03:38,776.2585034 James Barrett stated they were cutting wood and when they were leaving, they decided to burn a pile of trash. 38 00:03:39,436.2585034 --> 00:03:44,626.2585034 When they decided to leave a black Ford truck driven by Edwin Turton, cut them off in the roadway. 39 00:03:45,316.2585034 --> 00:03:53,446.2585034 After both vehicles came to a stop, James Barrett stated, Edwin Turton pointed a small pistol at his head in question him about trespassing. 40 00:03:54,106.2585034 --> 00:03:58,696.2585034 After things seemed to calm down, James Barrett and Darrell Philpot backed up to put out the. 41 00:03:59,896.2585034 --> 00:04:07,606.2585034 James Barrett stated he stayed in the truck as Darrell Philpot got out of the passenger side of his truck to walk over to put the fire out. 42 00:04:09,23.32199546 --> 00:04:13,313.32199546 So I know that me and you have discussed this, but I'm not a hundred percent sure. 43 00:04:13,763.32199546 --> 00:04:16,373.32199546 If it ever made it to episode yet, but. 44 00:04:17,393.32199546 --> 00:04:23,962.02947846 I am just really confused about the fire, the whole, there's a whole entire story. 45 00:04:23,978.19727891 --> 00:04:25,438.19727891 I know that we discussed that. 46 00:04:26,172.41496599 --> 00:04:26,982.41496599 In Oklahoma. 47 00:04:27,792.41496599 --> 00:04:30,982.41496599 Especially when he's dry and it hasn't rained for a long time. 48 00:04:32,262.41496599 --> 00:04:37,384.34240363 Which we've already discussed that as well, but it hadn't So there was no rainwater in the broken beer bottle. 49 00:04:37,476.31519274 --> 00:04:39,486.31519274 We made that very clear, but also. 50 00:04:40,956.31519274 --> 00:04:42,786.31519274 You can't be lightened fires in Oklahoma. 51 00:04:42,893.97959184 --> 00:04:46,13.97959184 During times of no rain because. 52 00:04:47,213.97959184 --> 00:04:49,172.27891156 It's much what we hear about in California. 53 00:04:49,172.27891156 --> 00:04:50,960.37414966 It go up in flames quickly. 54 00:04:50,960.37414966 --> 00:04:51,560.37414966 Everything. 55 00:04:52,130.37414966 --> 00:04:55,570.3968254 And I just don't understand where he thought that. 56 00:04:56,440.3968254 --> 00:04:58,450.3968254 This was going to be an acceptable excuse. 57 00:04:58,450.3968254 --> 00:05:00,220.3968254 I know that we've discussed this many times. 58 00:05:00,309.62585034 --> 00:05:01,809.62585034 Me and you, at least I know. 59 00:05:02,619.62585034 --> 00:05:02,899.62585034 But. 60 00:05:04,599.62585034 --> 00:05:05,619.62585034 I let you continue. 61 00:05:05,619.62585034 --> 00:05:08,919.62585034 I just wanted to let our listeners know that. 62 00:05:09,609.62585034 --> 00:05:10,99.62585034 For one. 63 00:05:10,210.89569161 --> 00:05:10,960.89569161 We did discuss it. 64 00:05:10,960.89569161 --> 00:05:11,730.89569161 Hadn't rained for a long time. 65 00:05:12,430.89569161 --> 00:05:15,100.89569161 And for too in Oklahoma, it's very dry. 66 00:05:15,940.89569161 --> 00:05:16,540.89569161 Red dirty. 67 00:05:16,555.72562358 --> 00:05:16,790.28344671 Atmosphere. 68 00:05:17,410.28344671 --> 00:05:19,943.16326531 And during times of no rain, especially in it. 69 00:05:19,994.16099773 --> 00:05:21,374.16099773 You know, summer, fall months. 70 00:05:22,604.16099773 --> 00:05:28,460.03401361 You're not allowed to start fires, especially not in an uncontained restricted area. 71 00:05:29,210.03401361 --> 00:05:35,614.61451247 Also, I want to just say and point out that even if Phil pot and his buddies. 72 00:05:35,614.90929705 --> 00:05:36,947.19954649 Thought that this was a. 73 00:05:36,999.58049887 --> 00:05:38,499.58049887 You know, foreclosed property. 74 00:05:39,69.58049887 --> 00:05:40,539.58049887 Somebody still owns that property. 75 00:05:40,539.58049887 --> 00:05:43,269.58049887 So it's still trespassing, whether it's the bank or whoever. 76 00:05:43,719.58049887 --> 00:05:48,621.39455782 The mortgage company was that they thought it would foreclosure with somebody still owns that property. 77 00:05:48,621.39455782 --> 00:05:53,841.39455782 Other than him, it's not like free reign, just because you think it's in foreclosure, it's still somebody's property. 78 00:05:53,871.39455782 --> 00:05:55,71.39455782 So it's still trespassing. 79 00:05:55,971.39455782 --> 00:05:57,371.39455782 Even though we both know. 80 00:05:58,251.39455782 --> 00:06:02,61.39455782 That it wasn't in foreclosure and so on and so forth. 81 00:06:02,151.39455782 --> 00:06:02,721.39455782 But. 82 00:06:04,851.39455782 --> 00:06:05,171.39455782 Anyway. 83 00:06:06,651.39455782 --> 00:06:09,271.39455782 This whole story is just blows my mind, but I will let you continue. 84 00:06:11,671.39455782 --> 00:06:15,61.39455782 James Barrett stated he was parked in the roadway facing westbound. 85 00:06:15,661.39455782 --> 00:06:18,411.39455782 Darrell Philpot and Edward Turton walked over to the fire. 86 00:06:20,326.39455782 --> 00:06:25,546.39455782 James Barrett stated, Darrell Phil Pop began walking fast to the truck as Edwin Turton was advancing. 87 00:06:25,546.39455782 --> 00:06:33,856.39455782 After him, James Barrett stated as Darrell Phil Pop reached the passenger side of the truck, that Edwin Turton shot at him and struck him in the right leg. 88 00:06:34,681.39455782 --> 00:06:41,101.39455782 James Barrett stated they drove eastbound toward Joseph Bradley's residence and Edwin Torrington drove westbound. 89 00:06:41,971.39455782 --> 00:06:52,591.39455782 I located several drops of blood in the middle of the roadway, approximately 12 foot north of the south edge of the roadway, and approximately nine feet west of the tree at the southeast of the driveway. 90 00:06:53,581.39455782 --> 00:06:56,821.39455782 I located an empty three, a three 80 caliber cas. 91 00:06:57,616.39455782 --> 00:07:02,656.39455782 36 feet south of the blood drops and approximately eight feet west of the tree. 92 00:07:03,376.39455782 --> 00:07:06,436.39455782 After Detective Houston arrived, he collected the evidence. 93 00:07:06,856.39455782 --> 00:07:13,306.39455782 After he processed the scene, he drove to the residence where James Barrett truck was parked to process the scene there. 94 00:07:13,996.39455782 --> 00:07:16,726.39455782 Edwin Turton was located by the J Police. 95 00:07:17,776.39455782 --> 00:07:23,536.39455782 He was detained and transported to the sheriff's office and waited until he spoke to de Detective Frank Miller. 96 00:07:25,756.39455782 --> 00:07:32,776.39455782 At this point in the affidavit, Detective MG Wells enters his record of the event for Reasons unknown. 97 00:07:33,106.39455782 --> 00:07:38,866.39455782 He chose to write it all in capital letters, and it contains numerous spelling and grammatical errors. 98 00:07:39,526.39455782 --> 00:07:40,906.39455782 It is included below. 99 00:07:42,316.39455782 --> 00:07:46,36.39455782 Just as it appeared on the affidavit quote. 100 00:07:46,36.39455782 --> 00:07:54,96.39455782 On Monday 4 14 20 14 at 2000 hours, I Captain MG Wells was advised of a shooting. 101 00:07:55,96.39455782 --> 00:07:58,996.39455782 Oak Hill Chapel community in the east central portion of Delaware County. 102 00:07:59,776.39455782 --> 00:08:02,536.39455782 According to initial information, one man was shot. 103 00:08:03,376.39455782 --> 00:08:05,566.39455782 Field deputies were on the way to the scene. 104 00:08:05,596.39455782 --> 00:08:17,386.39455782 I made contact with Detective Brandon Houston and requested he respond to a location along the county roadway at South six 90 and East three 70, and begin a follow up investigation. 105 00:08:17,786.39455782 --> 00:08:24,506.39455782 At 2038 hours, Detective Houston called me and told me the circumstances surrounding the shooting was spread out. 106 00:08:25,46.39455782 --> 00:08:27,896.39455782 The victim was taken to the hospital at Grove, Arkansas. 107 00:08:28,286.39455782 --> 00:08:37,466.39455782 The witnesses were being located in the area and near Southwest City, Missouri, and the victim left the scene and was just located and detained at j Oklahoma. 108 00:08:38,96.39455782 --> 00:08:43,16.39455782 He told me there were at least two vehicles involved as well as, which had to be process. 109 00:08:43,921.39455782 --> 00:08:47,851.39455782 Detective Houston told me there was evidence to be processed and recovered. 110 00:08:47,851.39455782 --> 00:08:53,521.39455782 At the scene of the shooting I learned Detective Frank Miller was responding to assist Detective Houston. 111 00:08:53,971.39455782 --> 00:08:57,811.39455782 I told Detective Houston I'd go to Grove and locate the victim. 112 00:08:58,381.39455782 --> 00:09:01,111.39455782 I left my residence and drove to Grat Hospital. 113 00:09:01,411.39455782 --> 00:09:10,441.39455782 I made contact with the emergency room charge nurse and activated my personal recorder Witness Renzel Rearden, rn Emergency Room Grove. 114 00:09:11,951.39455782 --> 00:09:16,931.39455782 I introduced myself and told Nurse Re and I needed to talk with the shooting victim from Delaware County. 115 00:09:17,531.39455782 --> 00:09:21,131.39455782 He was most cooperative and led me to a treatment room witness. 116 00:09:21,136.39455782 --> 00:09:28,181.39455782 I also met the certified nurse assistant and identified him as Leaf Garrett on contact with a male in there. 117 00:09:28,421.39455782 --> 00:09:29,771.39455782 I identified myself. 118 00:09:30,346.39455782 --> 00:09:32,566.39455782 There were several relatives in the treatment room. 119 00:09:32,986.39455782 --> 00:09:36,526.39455782 I asked them to step outside while I talked with the victim by myself. 120 00:09:36,526.39455782 --> 00:09:37,426.39455782 They all complied. 121 00:09:39,436.39455782 --> 00:09:47,836.39455782 I also identified a Grove police officer who came into the emergency room to assist witness patrolman Jack Sanders Grove Police Department. 122 00:09:48,376.39455782 --> 00:09:55,246.39455782 I obtained biographical information from the male in the hospital bed victim, Darrell Eugene Philpot white male. 123 00:09:55,246.39455782 --> 00:09:58,156.39455782 Date of birth 2/16/61. 124 00:09:59,531.39455782 --> 00:10:04,991.39455782 Unemployed resident living with Cousin Jack Thomas Oak Hill Chapel area, or Oak Chapel area. 125 00:10:05,711.39455782 --> 00:10:06,551.39455782 I observed Mr. 126 00:10:06,551.39455782 --> 00:10:09,281.39455782 Philpot to have his right leg exposed from the sheep. 127 00:10:09,731.39455782 --> 00:10:13,781.39455782 There was an ace bandage around his thigh about midway between his thigh and his knee. 128 00:10:14,501.39455782 --> 00:10:15,521.39455782 As I talked with Mr. 129 00:10:15,521.39455782 --> 00:10:18,581.39455782 Philpot, I asked him if he had been drinking earlier in the day. 130 00:10:18,911.39455782 --> 00:10:20,831.39455782 He said yes, but only a half pint. 131 00:10:21,221.39455782 --> 00:10:24,401.39455782 I asked him what he was drinking and he told me a half pint of whiskey. 132 00:10:24,881.39455782 --> 00:10:25,751.39455782 I could not smell. 133 00:10:27,241.39455782 --> 00:10:29,11.39455782 beverage on or about his body. 134 00:10:29,11.39455782 --> 00:10:32,281.39455782 At the time of contact, Phil Pot appeared to be sober. 135 00:10:32,791.39455782 --> 00:10:33,721.39455782 I told Phil Pot. 136 00:10:33,721.39455782 --> 00:10:36,721.39455782 I was investigating the shooting incident, which occurred earlier. 137 00:10:36,931.39455782 --> 00:10:40,291.39455782 He indicated he understood and he was cooperative. 138 00:10:42,311.39455782 --> 00:10:42,681.39455782 Hi. 139 00:10:42,681.39455782 --> 00:10:43,508.58276644 I have to interrupt. 140 00:10:43,688.58276644 --> 00:10:44,558.58276644 I apologize. 141 00:10:45,908.58276644 --> 00:10:47,415.47619048 Clint, but my. 142 00:10:49,35.47619048 --> 00:10:50,205.47619048 Mind is boggled. 143 00:10:50,205.47619048 --> 00:10:58,768.21995465 And I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about this half pint of alcohol that was consumed by fell pot. 144 00:10:59,308.21995465 --> 00:10:59,958.24263039 Hours earlier. 145 00:10:59,958.24263039 --> 00:11:00,659.62585034 Mind you. 146 00:11:01,319.62585034 --> 00:11:09,657.06349206 When I say hours earlier, It was probably closer to the time that he was involved in this incident. 147 00:11:09,715.24943311 --> 00:11:15,394.02494331 And I am sure that his alcohol use and his past. 148 00:11:16,144.02494331 --> 00:11:17,614.02494331 Record of alcohol use. 149 00:11:17,644.02494331 --> 00:11:18,964.02494331 That is public knowledge. 150 00:11:19,64.75056689 --> 00:11:19,444.75056689 As. 151 00:11:20,234.75056689 --> 00:11:20,744.75056689 I'm sure. 152 00:11:20,744.75056689 --> 00:11:23,534.75056689 I'm going to hear you discuss and tell us about again. 153 00:11:23,571.57596372 --> 00:11:26,271.57596372 I know that we have discussed it, but I don't know what's made it on here or not. 154 00:11:26,511.57596372 --> 00:11:35,345.22675737 Plus I will Putting His record up on the website today, so everybody can see it with their own eyes, but I just wanted to state that. 155 00:11:36,465.22675737 --> 00:11:37,745.22675737 This police officer. 156 00:11:38,565.22675737 --> 00:11:42,479.08163265 Is trying to let's Minimize. 157 00:11:43,729.08163265 --> 00:11:45,551.00907029 The fact that he had been drinking. 158 00:11:46,481.00907029 --> 00:11:48,221.00907029 Probably drunk around that time. 159 00:11:48,731.00907029 --> 00:11:52,281.00907029 Or at least been drinking around the time that he was shot in the leg. 160 00:11:52,312.86848073 --> 00:11:52,862.86848073 Just when I listed. 161 00:11:53,992.86848073 --> 00:11:56,62.86848073 And I also have with me today. 162 00:11:58,42.86848073 --> 00:11:58,462.86848073 A. 163 00:11:58,822.86848073 --> 00:11:59,762.86848073 I'm an officer. 164 00:11:59,852.39229025 --> 00:12:00,362.39229025 Herself. 165 00:12:00,421.39455782 --> 00:12:04,431.39455782 Who has agreed to let me interview her and ask her some questions. 166 00:12:05,131.39455782 --> 00:12:16,581.75736961 And give me some not necessarily a legal or like criminal advice, but like in the eyes of a police officer that's what I think is important. 167 00:12:16,581.75736961 --> 00:12:18,458.90022676 Because we all know that. 168 00:12:20,498.90022676 --> 00:12:21,638.90022676 A police officer. 169 00:12:22,418.90022676 --> 00:12:25,308.85487528 Or anybody in the legal system? Most of. 170 00:12:26,508.85487528 --> 00:12:29,548.85487528 Them know that there's a difference between what is. 171 00:12:30,318.85487528 --> 00:12:38,148.85487528 The legality of things and what is the morality of things? And I thought it was important to get different. 172 00:12:38,195.63492064 --> 00:12:38,868.69614512 Viewpoint. 173 00:12:39,508.69614512 --> 00:12:42,778.69614512 From a police officer that doesn't necessarily believe that. 174 00:12:43,798.69614512 --> 00:12:44,878.69614512 Everything is fair. 175 00:12:46,438.69614512 --> 00:12:47,308.69614512 And. 176 00:12:48,808.69614512 --> 00:12:50,308.69614512 Understands how much it can stop. 177 00:12:51,448.69614512 --> 00:12:52,168.69614512 Too. 178 00:12:53,668.69614512 --> 00:12:55,18.69614512 Have a self defense case. 179 00:12:56,248.69614512 --> 00:12:59,168.69614512 And that person has to be charged just as well. 180 00:12:59,398.69614512 --> 00:13:00,629.42176871 You know, and booked in. 181 00:13:01,119.42176871 --> 00:13:02,729.42176871 Whatever until they're proven innocent. 182 00:13:02,735.56689342 --> 00:13:07,488.28798186 I just want everybody to know that she will be chiming in, I will be asking her questions. 183 00:13:07,557.01814059 --> 00:13:09,597.01814059 Throughout the rest of the podcast and. 184 00:13:10,857.01814059 --> 00:13:19,127.01814059 Oh, stop rambling for now, but Clint, go ahead I asked if he knew who shot him. 185 00:13:19,132.01814059 --> 00:13:19,877.01814059 He told me no. 186 00:13:19,882.01814059 --> 00:13:22,457.01814059 I think the guy may live a couple houses east. 187 00:13:23,87.01814059 --> 00:13:24,947.01814059 I asked him to explain what happened. 188 00:13:24,947.01814059 --> 00:13:29,447.01814059 Phil Pot told him or told me him and Steve Barrett were cutting wood near. 189 00:13:30,402.01814059 --> 00:13:34,752.01814059 Philpot told me his cousin, Jack Thomas, sent him and Barrett to get the wood for the stove. 190 00:13:35,562.01814059 --> 00:13:36,162.01814059 I asked Mr. 191 00:13:36,162.01814059 --> 00:13:38,742.01814059 Philpot who owned the property where they were cutting wood. 192 00:13:38,742.01814059 --> 00:13:42,672.01814059 He told me, quote, We were on property owned by Michael Rainey's, Buddy. 193 00:13:42,762.01814059 --> 00:13:45,462.01814059 In response to my questions, Phil Pott was unable. 194 00:13:46,522.44897959 --> 00:13:47,662.44897959 To name the buddy. 195 00:13:48,172.44897959 --> 00:13:52,162.44897959 He just confirmed his cousin, Jack Thomas, sent them to the location to get wood. 196 00:13:52,882.44897959 --> 00:13:57,802.44897959 Phil Pott told me they started a small fire to burn debris as they were leaving the wood lot. 197 00:13:57,802.44897959 --> 00:14:01,672.44897959 Steve Barrett was driving a Chevrolet pickup and Phil Pott was a passenger. 198 00:14:02,92.44897959 --> 00:14:04,372.44897959 He said there was about a half load of wood in the bed. 199 00:14:04,882.44897959 --> 00:14:07,642.44897959 They turned west onto County Road East three 70. 200 00:14:08,152.44897959 --> 00:14:09,384.44897959 Phil Pott said a. 201 00:14:09,937.44897959 --> 00:14:12,247.44897959 Pulled up in a black Ford and pulled a gun on us. 202 00:14:12,427.44897959 --> 00:14:14,977.44897959 I asked him to be more specific about what happened. 203 00:14:15,607.44897959 --> 00:14:18,967.44897959 He said at first he passed us and turned in front of Steve, forcing us to. 204 00:14:20,272.44897959 --> 00:14:24,532.44897959 The guy came running back and pointed a small handgun right at Steve's head through the window. 205 00:14:24,922.44897959 --> 00:14:26,742.44897959 He was yelling, You're trespassing. 206 00:14:27,172.44897959 --> 00:14:31,282.44897959 We tried to tell him we weren't, but he was yelling, I ain't afraid to put a cap in your ass. 207 00:14:31,282.44897959 --> 00:14:35,302.44897959 Motherfucker, Phil Pot said we had a little trash fire. 208 00:14:35,307.44897959 --> 00:14:37,282.44897959 The guy was yelling for us to put it out. 209 00:14:37,732.44897959 --> 00:14:38,782.44897959 He was still yelling. 210 00:14:38,812.44897959 --> 00:14:40,432.44897959 I ain't afraid to put a cap in your ass. 211 00:14:40,432.44897959 --> 00:14:42,112.44897959 Motherfucker who was trespassing. 212 00:14:43,762.44897959 --> 00:14:45,922.44897959 So I walked across the road and stomped it out. 213 00:14:45,952.44897959 --> 00:14:47,872.44897959 I asked Phil Pot why the man shot him. 214 00:14:47,872.44897959 --> 00:14:51,952.44897959 He said he shot me for telling him he was a punk for C pulling a gun on us. 215 00:14:52,522.44897959 --> 00:14:55,312.44897959 I asked if either him or Barrett had a gun or any weapon. 216 00:14:55,312.44897959 --> 00:14:56,152.44897959 He said no. 217 00:14:56,752.44897959 --> 00:15:01,702.44897959 I asked Phil Pot when he got shot, he told me he was walking back to Barrett's truck. 218 00:15:01,732.44897959 --> 00:15:04,42.44897959 He said, I told him he was a punk motherfucker. 219 00:15:04,992.44897959 --> 00:15:07,422.44897959 If you really wanna do something, put your gun down. 220 00:15:07,422.44897959 --> 00:15:10,302.44897959 Phil Pot said he threw a beer bottle at me. 221 00:15:10,782.44897959 --> 00:15:13,122.44897959 I told him that just proves you're a punk motherfucker. 222 00:15:13,962.44897959 --> 00:15:17,712.44897959 Phil Pott said he walked around the man with the gun who was standing in the roadway. 223 00:15:17,717.44897959 --> 00:15:23,902.44897959 He said, As I got to Steve's truck, I was just rounding the front of the truck, and he shot me from behind in the back of the leg. 224 00:15:25,207.44897959 --> 00:15:26,317.44897959 While talking with Mr. 225 00:15:26,317.44897959 --> 00:15:29,947.44897959 Philpot, I asked him to sign a release of medical records form. 226 00:15:29,947.44897959 --> 00:15:34,597.44897959 Officer Sanders left the treatment room and returned shortly with the necessary form. 227 00:15:34,597.44897959 --> 00:15:34,897.44897959 Mr. 228 00:15:34,897.44897959 --> 00:15:36,697.44897959 Philpot read the form and signed it. 229 00:15:37,297.44897959 --> 00:15:41,977.44897959 The hospital later provided me with a copy of his medical records and an x-ray compact disc. 230 00:15:43,687.44897959 --> 00:15:45,637.44897959 They were later placed in the case file. 231 00:15:45,817.44897959 --> 00:15:47,317.44897959 I talked with CNA Garrett. 232 00:15:47,347.44897959 --> 00:15:50,827.44897959 I asked him if he was going to redress and re and wrap Mr. 233 00:15:50,827.44897959 --> 00:15:51,907.44897959 Philpot's injury. 234 00:15:52,447.44897959 --> 00:15:53,587.44897959 He told me he was. 235 00:15:53,647.44897959 --> 00:15:59,137.44897959 As I watched Garrett remove the bandage, I took photos of the exposed injury. 236 00:16:00,727.44897959 --> 00:16:06,547.44897959 The wound appeared to be a through and through small caliber gunshot to the right thigh from back to. 237 00:16:07,777.44897959 --> 00:16:08,767.44897959 I also told Mr. 238 00:16:08,767.44897959 --> 00:16:15,817.44897959 Philpot I was going to perform a gunshot residue kit on his hands and face to check to see if he had fired a weapon recently. 239 00:16:16,147.44897959 --> 00:16:19,87.44897959 He said, Not today anyway, and agreed. 240 00:16:19,267.44897959 --> 00:16:24,127.44897959 I followed the directions on the gunshot residue kit, doing both hands in order to. 241 00:16:24,487.44897959 --> 00:16:26,137.44897959 In order and then his face. 242 00:16:26,497.44897959 --> 00:16:30,877.44897959 I secured the samples into individual vials and returned them to the kit envelope. 243 00:16:31,537.44897959 --> 00:16:33,247.44897959 They were sealed with the evidence tape. 244 00:16:33,997.44897959 --> 00:16:34,897.44897959 I also told Mr. 245 00:16:34,897.44897959 --> 00:16:39,367.44897959 Philpot I was going to do swabs on the inside of his cheeks to obtain a DNA sample. 246 00:16:39,877.44897959 --> 00:16:44,377.4489796 He agreed and made two swabs of both cheeks and the inside of his mouth. 247 00:16:44,407.4489796 --> 00:16:49,87.4489796 Both swabs were placed in separate plastic bags and later sealed as evidence. 248 00:16:49,447.4489796 --> 00:16:51,397.4489796 I concluded my contact with Mr. 249 00:16:52,617.4489796 --> 00:16:56,127.4489796 I obtained his medical records from staff and left the hospital. 250 00:17:01,230.1360544 --> 00:17:07,629.2517007 So I have Emily here today and we're just gonna discuss A few key points of opinions only. 251 00:17:07,629.2517007 --> 00:17:08,919.2517007 This is not the gallery. 252 00:17:08,919.2517007 --> 00:17:13,749.2517007 This is not, this is an opinion from a police officer herself. 253 00:17:14,229.2517007 --> 00:17:16,809.2517007 On how she feels and what she. 254 00:17:18,39.2517007 --> 00:17:23,289.2517007 Knows to be just or unjust or just whatever comes to mind. 255 00:17:23,319.2517007 --> 00:17:24,259.2517007 Really? It's no. 256 00:17:24,367.3469388 --> 00:17:27,265.8503401 This isn't some set in stone law or anything like that. 257 00:17:27,265.8503401 --> 00:17:28,915.8503401 I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea here. 258 00:17:28,915.8503401 --> 00:17:29,625.8503401 This is serious. 259 00:17:30,745.8503401 --> 00:17:36,523.2879819 Seriously, just the opinion of a police officer herself Situations like these. 260 00:17:36,557.8911565 --> 00:17:37,907.8911565 Cause I'm curious how. 261 00:17:39,107.8911565 --> 00:17:43,858.6394558 Police officers that are not corrupt tend to feel view in. 262 00:17:46,706.7800454 --> 00:17:57,962.3809524 How are they making a difference? Or are they making a difference or do they feel like they can or so on and what do you think of this? I tend to find cases like this the reason i became an officer in the first place. 263 00:17:58,62.3809524 --> 00:17:59,632.3809524 This kind of corruption makes me sick. 264 00:17:59,878.6394558 --> 00:18:06,998.6394558 You know we have discussed this case in great detail however, for those that don't really understand what is going on in the world this stuff happens everyday. 265 00:18:07,134.8752834 --> 00:18:15,84.8752834 We have officials everywhere big cities to little villages who are stealing from the counties to covering up there own murderous ways by charging others for a crime they committed. 266 00:18:17,55.0793651 --> 00:18:17,255.0793651 Yes. 267 00:18:18,315.0793651 --> 00:18:23,734.1723356 Yes, that's disgusting behavior and it is a shame that happens all the you're well aware of. 268 00:18:25,904.1723356 --> 00:18:27,434.1723356 A case that I'm very passionate about. 269 00:18:27,523.3560091 --> 00:18:29,173.3560091 But the Richard Glossop situation. 270 00:18:29,593.3560091 --> 00:18:30,253.3560091 And. 271 00:18:31,903.3560091 --> 00:18:33,223.3560091 Being railroaded, but. 272 00:18:34,3.3560091 --> 00:18:36,463.3560091 The difference between what you just said and. 273 00:18:37,243.3560091 --> 00:18:38,413.3560091 His case is. 274 00:18:39,343.3560091 --> 00:18:43,416.6666667 You know, That I mean, your firsthand with this. 275 00:18:43,457.3469388 --> 00:18:44,37.3469388 On a daily basis. 276 00:18:45,287.3469388 --> 00:18:51,167.3469388 You know that these people are there's people out there that are being convicted for crimes that government officials or. 277 00:18:51,797.3469388 --> 00:18:52,247.3469388 Committing. 278 00:18:52,667.3469388 --> 00:18:54,407.3469388 And that is scary. 279 00:18:54,437.3469388 --> 00:18:56,81.5646259 That is very scary because. 280 00:18:58,111.5646259 --> 00:19:02,431.5646259 As we know this is a domino effect or a chain link. 281 00:19:02,517.8231293 --> 00:19:02,827.8231293 The spreads. 282 00:19:03,717.8231293 --> 00:19:05,127.8231293 You know, as far and wide. 283 00:19:05,457.8231293 --> 00:19:10,127.8231293 And if you've got a bunch of government officials, corrupt government officials. 284 00:19:11,187.8231293 --> 00:19:14,967.8231293 You know, Allowing it to happen each hire. 285 00:19:15,0.7709751 --> 00:19:16,430.7709751 Up on chain of demand there. 286 00:19:16,860.7709751 --> 00:19:22,980.7709751 Is if they're corrupt and then, you know, higher the Nimmo corrupt, this could go all the way up to. 287 00:19:23,820.7709751 --> 00:19:27,100.1587302 The very top tiers of the us government. 288 00:19:27,109.2063492 --> 00:19:27,612.7210884 That is. 289 00:19:27,650.7482993 --> 00:19:28,282.4489796 Very. 290 00:19:28,354.30839 --> 00:19:29,194.30839 I don't even scary. 291 00:19:29,224.30839 --> 00:19:29,914.2857143 I don't think is the word. 292 00:19:29,924.829932 --> 00:19:33,414.829932 I think it goes beyond the word, scary and into a whole different dimension. 293 00:19:34,214.829932 --> 00:19:37,757.1882086 So anyway I guess I'd have to ask you. 294 00:19:40,7.1882086 --> 00:19:47,937.1882086 Is there anything that you've tried to do or anything that you are doing, or is there anything that you feel you're able to do? Is there anything. 295 00:19:48,947.1882086 --> 00:19:50,57.1882086 That you feel like. 296 00:19:50,927.1882086 --> 00:19:53,437.1882086 You know, People that you trust. 297 00:19:55,517.1882086 --> 00:19:56,645.3514739 Can do is. 298 00:19:58,85.3514739 --> 00:20:06,95.3514739 Or is it just too? Do you know, too dangerous? Is it too dangerous too? You know, put your foot down or exposing any of this. 299 00:20:06,201.2018141 --> 00:20:06,771.2018141 What is. 300 00:20:08,331.2018141 --> 00:20:12,607.8004535 Your part or purpose in this I'm just curious to know. 301 00:20:13,177.8004535 --> 00:20:15,860.7029478 And if you don't feel comfortable answering that question, you don't have to answer it either. 302 00:20:15,910.1587302 --> 00:20:17,800.1587302 I just think that I'd like to know. 303 00:20:18,310.1587302 --> 00:20:18,910.1587302 And less. 304 00:20:18,940.1587302 --> 00:20:21,635.9863946 There's to know if there's, you know, anybody get out there. 305 00:20:21,635.9863946 --> 00:20:23,645.9863946 That's trying to change. 306 00:20:23,692.6530612 --> 00:20:28,852.7664399 You know, justice reform because they want to, because they're not corrupted because they're pier. 307 00:20:28,852.7664399 --> 00:20:35,401.814059 What are your thoughts on that? I don't want to minamize the dangers of exposing corruption of any kind. 308 00:20:35,620.3174603 --> 00:20:39,900.3174603 However exposing corruption on one of your own, the dangers increase ten fold. 309 00:20:40,83.3786848 --> 00:20:44,763.3786848 This being said there are good cops who have to be extrememly careful and delicate on doing so. 310 00:20:44,838.6394558 --> 00:20:50,598.6394558 I can't reply on what I am doing to help with the exposure do to my own safety and protection of those helping me do so. 311 00:20:50,701.6780045 --> 00:20:57,351.6780045 I can say that I am doing my part, I wake up and go to sleep every night knowing I am and will continue to follow and do what I was sworn in to do. 312 00:20:57,480.2947846 --> 00:20:58,750.2947846 I will fight for the underdog. 313 00:20:58,979.5918367 --> 00:21:02,999.5918367 I don't believe in harrassing others or giving out citations for things that are senseless. 314 00:21:04,125.9637188 --> 00:21:05,955.9637188 Well, that wraps up today's episode. 315 00:21:07,5.9637188 --> 00:21:09,975.9637188 Please join us next Sunday for another episode of corrupt guilt. 316 00:21:14,445.9637188 --> 00:21:17,25.9637188 Also check out the website, corruptguilt.org 317 00:21:18,925.9637188 --> 00:21:19,775.9637188 we will have. 318 00:21:23,505.9637188 --> 00:21:27,315.9637188 Some of Edmund Turlington's case uploaded to the site. 319 00:21:27,585.9637188 --> 00:21:28,785.9637188 And don't forget about. 320 00:21:29,745.9637188 --> 00:21:30,615.9637188 Richard Glossop. 321 00:21:34,695.9637188 --> 00:21:37,5.9637188 And going to save Richard glossop.com. 322 00:21:37,575.9637188 --> 00:21:38,85.9637188 Two. 323 00:21:39,105.9637188 --> 00:21:40,845.9637188 Sign his petition to get him out. 324 00:21:41,385.9637188 --> 00:21:43,925.9637188 Or getting the new trial or Stay execution. 325 00:21:46,535.9637188 --> 00:21:47,145.9637188 Also. 326 00:21:48,795.9637188 --> 00:21:49,205.9637188 Brandon Ray. 327 00:21:49,205.9637188 --> 00:21:49,925.9637188 Uh, young man. 328 00:21:50,735.9637188 --> 00:21:53,705.9637188 Who was wrongly accused of a crime? He did not commit. 329 00:21:57,335.9637188 --> 00:21:58,625.9637188 Check out that episode. 330 00:21:59,435.9637188 --> 00:22:01,85.9637188 And as we are working to get. 331 00:22:01,745.9637188 --> 00:22:04,895.9637188 Save Brandon Ray merge up on the website. 332 00:22:05,705.9637188 --> 00:22:08,855.9637188 Please continue to check back every dime of that money. 333 00:22:09,845.9637188 --> 00:22:14,795.9637188 We'll be going to Brandon Ray's family to get him bailed out of jail. 334 00:22:16,25.9637188 --> 00:22:17,885.9637188 Once again, this is corrupt guilt. 335 00:22:18,185.9637188 --> 00:22:19,745.9637188 I'm your host, Savannah Renee. 336 00:22:20,795.9637188 --> 00:22:21,575.9637188 And that's all for now.